Honkbarn Harvests Bumper for MyToons Contest

As discussed here back in December, MyToons has announced their Bumper Blastoff Competition, and the deadline for entries has recently been extended until February 28th.

Todd Ramsay, the mastermind behind the Honkbarn series, took the challenge, and uploaded this short, musical bumper.

14 Comments

  1. Truly, the “Toons” character’s dance is the most awesome dance ever.

  2. It’s a crappy rip off of Aardman’s Puprle & Brown.

  3. That’s because I found an episode of Purple and Brown that I was able to download to my desktop. From there I imported the video clip into Flash and rotoscoped the Purple and Brown animation frame by frame. I then took a sound clip from Purple and Brown and edited it in Sound Forge so that the characters were saying ‘my’ and ‘toons’.

  4. Hey Alex
    You’re a crappy rip off of Aardman’s Purple and Brown. Simple yet a good joke.
    Nothing like knocking creative folks for working hard, you narrow minded industry automaton

  5. don keyhotee January 31, 2008

    Advice from a professional with a bit of inside information: Users may want to read the mytoons user agreement that can be changed at any time, without notification. In fact, read everything very carefully, possibly have a lawyer go over it before submitting anything to this site, if you at all value the hard work you’ve put into creating your series or ideas. These guys are character and idea miners who will take advantage of you. Find your fortune and fame by broadcasting on your very own website, and promoting the links externally, you’ll retain ownership of your property / characters, and you won’t be filling the pockets of internet 2.0 venture capitalists.

  6. wow todd…. you reaLLY DID THAT?????
    you can get problems with that you know, copyrights etc……together with your signed confession above, you’ll get sewed any minute now.
    pffff.. other than that discussion,
    I like it a lot

    joost

  7. Ouch Alex! I thought it was really killer – great colors, texture, characters…

    i can see the resemblance, but maybe its an homage…?

    Regardless – Purple & Brown are hilarious!

  8. don keyhotee: After reading their agreement there was 1 line that shocked me…

    Intellectual Property Rights

    ‘We own or license all content on or submitted to us through this site’

    Non-exclusive rights is one thing but to hand over exclusive rights for free is crazy talk. I don’t mind that they own the rights to the bumper. That’s the idea behind the contest, to create a bumper that they can use to advertise their website. Fair enough but I’d definitely be hesitant to hand over any other work. I think that they’ll have to revise their terms of agreement from retaining ownership to NON-EXCLUSIVE rights while getting rid of the line that states they can change the terms at any time.

    Thanks for the heads up.

  9. don keyhotee February 1, 2008

    Todd: I would really like to see someone or some company with a good creative copyright attorney working on the side of good, formally analyze the agreement there for further review.

    It is very alarming, and the intent behind placing a line like that into an amorphous tos, should raise the red flag in any creator looking to post content anywhere on the internet.

    I believe that the business practices of this company need to shown in broad daylight. I for one am seriously rubbed the wrong way.

    DK

  10. Ian Copeland February 3, 2008

    Todd and Don,

    The agreement says MyToons “owns OR licenses.” If you continue reading, MyToons states:

    “You retain all of your ownership rights in your Submitted Content.”

    So your copyright and the ownership of your ideas is protected.

    “However, by submitting your Submitted Content to the site, you grant to us a worldwide, nonexclusive, royalty-free…license to use, reproduce, (and) distribute.. in any media formats…for commercial gain or otherwise.”

    This is boilerplate for any website hosting user submitted media. Do you have video on YouTube? Then you have made a similar agreement (nearly word for word). It doesn’t mean Mytoons is going to steal your characters or your show. The artist is agreeing to grant Mytoons a “non exclusive”, “royalty free” license to broadcast their animation from the Mytoons website. The user also agrees Mytoons can profit from the submitted animation (on-site advertising, a mobile content agreement, or a Mytoons television programme, for example). Mytoons is a business, after all, and they’re letting you know that in exchange for bandwidth they will make every effort to profit from your content.

    “You agree to waive all rights of any claim against us for any alleged or actual infringement or misappropriation of any intellectual property rights.”

    The “waive all rights” clause constitutes wishful thinking on the part of the company and is unenforceable. If an artist genuinely believes their work has been stolen by the Mytoons website, no judge will throw out the case on the first day because of a “waive all rights” clause.

    But the part of the agreement that protects the artist and their right to ownership is this:

    “The foregoing license granted by you terminates prospectively (at some future point) with respect to Submitted Content that is removed or deleted from the site, but such removal or deletion will not affect the rights granted to us or other users prior to such removal or deletion.”

    When you remove your content from the Mytoons website, Mytoons no longer has a license to continuing using the content in the future. The agreement protects Mytoons’ actions while they had a license. This does not mean that if Mytoons makes a deal on Thursday to broadcast your animation on a television programme and you remove your animation on Friday, they can still go ahead. It simply means you cannot remove your content, then turn around and sue Mytoons for making your animation available on the Mytoons website.

    Mytoons did not setup shop to steal other artist’s ideas – it would be far cheaper to hire a gaggle of character designers, writers, and animators to start from scratch without the Damoclean fear of costly and protracted litigation hanging over the head of the enterprise.

  11. Ian Copeland February 3, 2008

    In my long-winded screed, I should have typed with regard to the “removal of submitted content” clause:

    It simply means you cannot remove your content, then turn around and sue Mytoons for having made your animation available on the Mytoons website when they had a license to do so.

  12. Hello,

    Unfortunately explaining away a segment of a written contract into other terms i.e: “wishful thinking” or “prospectively..” does not change the direct legal implications of the clause. Anything agreed to in a contract such as this one, or any signed statement, for that matter, is legally binding. Especially when written in that contract the ability to change the contract at any time, without notifying the end user is a factor. Shameful!

    Also I see no clause for an exception in ownership OR termination of use after a set period of time anywhere in the contract, unless it is presumed that MyToons makes these types of agreements individually. By this blanket contract everyone agrees to when uploading content, this would not be the case.

    Case in point: You are entering your films into an animation festival. At some point, you sign a contract, let’s say for example Spike & Mike. Now, you wouldn’t sign a contract saying that Spike and Mike could make money by re-broadcasting your films in any medium, (making money in doing so) forever, would you? Would you also sign a contract waiving your right to sue them for appropriating your idea, making something derivative, and selling it in another market? I think not.

    Many of these companies have sprung up, as “content portals”, who are mostly interested in advertising revenue and the traffic gotten from the user submitted content.

    My advice from my creative copyright attorney: DON’T grant a blanket license granting the ability to use your content in an unlimited sense, make sure there is a SET EXPIRATION DATE for the use of your content, and that all rights revert back to you, at after a set period of time! This is of course the last thing that these “portal” people want.

    Can you imagine getting the rights to broadcast Seinfeld, or any television program, indefinitely? The proposal is totally preposterous, yet since animation is a short format medium, it is easier to collect en masse, and profit from it indefinitely. Who is to say, what someone is in the business of doing, collecting, and owning content in this manner. A deep read of the contract, by your lawyer, should be the first thing you do, before submitting content, anywhere.

  13. As an aside,

    “it would be far cheaper to hire a gaggle of character designers, writers, and animators to start from scratch..” Ah yes, but then this would take real talent and vision to complete.

    Setting up a portal is far easier.

    Keep your creations broadcast on your own website, folks. Find ways to drive traffic to it yourself. Retain ownership and peace of mind.

  14. Thanks for clarifying Ian. Some of these terms were a little confusing. It didn’t even cross my mind that Mytoons was out to steal artists work but the single line ‘owns and liscenes’ raised some concerns. Lawyers talk funny.

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